Swine flu jab?

[andreahenderson2]

Hi folks

We’ve just received an NHS appointment for our youngest to receive a swine flu jab which we are strongly advised to keep. When you read stuff like this

http://irdial.com/blogdial/?p=2353

along with others saying that the vaccine is full of dubious substances, it doesn’t exactly fill you with confidence. Can anyone direct me to reliable independent information that accurately weighs up the risks?

Cheers.
Paul.

[Elaine Kirk]

I have been and got a couple of links from friends fbook wall as she has been following this

DailyMail

Wolfgang Wodarg, head of health at the Council of Europe, accused the makers of flu drugs and vaccines of influencing the World Health Organisation's decision to declare a pandemic.

Mail again

In other words, swine flu - just like the bird flu which we were told by a senior WHO official in 2005 was going to kill 150 million people worldwide (the true death toll turned out to be barely 200) - has predictably turned out to be yet another example of that all-too-familiar and very dangerous disease of our time, the 'scare phenomenon'.

[Ali P]

I heard some Labour politician on the radio yesterday bleating about how there might soon be a third wave of swine flu so we'd better all line up for the jab. I didn't actually notice the first or second waves being any more virulent than seasonal flu and wouldn't go near such a controversial vaccine, but then I tend not to go near any health services if I can possibly avoid them.

I think parents are being put in an almost impossible position as there is so much misinformation being bandied, along with scare tactics which are designed to induce guilt trips whether or not they accept govt 'advice'.

On a positive note, at least you are still able to make that decision yourself, although who knows how much longer parents will be permitted the 'privelege' of carefully weighing up the pros an cons on behalf of their children?

Sorry, I know the above is totally useless!

[Florence]

You may find this link useful

http://www.newscientist.com/article/...-mild-flu.html

My son and I both had the jab as we both have asthma. My husband had swine flu before Christmas and we didn't get it.

Hope the info helps.

[banshee]

We've had Swine Flu...over the festive season! And our GP's diagnosis was that it was 'more than likely Swine Flu', and suggested doses of paracetamol, and that's about it. My boys' coughs lasted for weeks, nearly eight, more like six weeks of The Cough. After about four weeks I called for a home visit (just too cold to go out with wee ones) and our Favourite GP (she really is) put them on antibiotics, which seemed to help, or it could just have been timing(?). Soon after they finished their courses, the baby wee one's cough returned. They're well now, and the wretched cough is gone.
We got one of those letters as well soon after, but it seems kind of pointless, because if it was Swine Flu then they would have built up a resistance, or some degree of immuntiy; and if the doctor (the head GP)felt that what was 'more than likely' SF and we only needed to keep a look out for signs of respiratory ditress and severe fever, and he didn't seem too panicked about it, then surely a vaccination is not desperately necessary.
I am generally very wary of vaccines, and any other kind of chemically conjured pharmaceutical,... or is it pharmaceutically conjured chemical?
But as with most choices about the well-being of our children, we sometimes doubt ourselves (for purely emotional reasons: because we care so much), and want so badly to trust the advice of 'experts'. It would be great to find 'experts' we could trust. When you do...let me know.

[banshee]

Oh, and what I forgot to mention is that the policy at the school was to NOT inform parents that there were two confirmed cases (one in my son's nursey group); and I was told that parents would be notified only if there were cases of measles, chicken pox or the like. Nice! And recently there was a nasty tummy bug going around the school... thank goodness the Creative doesn't really want to go to nursery, unless of cousre I stay...for the whole session (highly frowned upon, and the last time we went he was given a choice by the head teacher: either stay on his own or go home with Mummy...we haven't been back since).

[Sheila Struthers]

Thought this was an interesting article .

[Elaine Kirk]

That's a thought Andrea, Sheila's article talks about mutations and I seem to recall reading that the 'jabs' are SF specific and would be only partly effective or totally ineffective against mutations.
As flu virus constantly mutate then.......

[Crank Parent]

Originally Posted by banshee

We've had Swine Flu...over the festive season! And our GP's diagnosis was that it was 'more than likely Swine Flu', and suggested doses of paracetamol, and that's about it. My boys' coughs lasted for weeks, nearly eight, more like six weeks of The Cough. After about four weeks I called for a home visit (just too cold to go out with wee ones) and our Favourite GP (she really is) put them on antibiotics, which seemed to help, or it could just have been timing(?). Soon after they finished their courses, the baby wee one's cough returned. They're well now, and the wretched cough is gone.
We got one of those letters as well soon after, but it seems kind of pointless, because if it was Swine Flu then they would have built up a resistance, or some degree of immuntiy; and if the doctor (the head GP)felt that what was 'more than likely' SF and we only needed to keep a look out for signs of respiratory ditress and severe fever, and he didn't seem too panicked about it, then surely a vaccination is not desperately necessary.
I am generally very wary of vaccines, and any other kind of chemically conjured pharmaceutical,... or is it pharmaceutically conjured chemical?
But as with most choices about the well-being of our children, we sometimes doubt ourselves (for purely emotional reasons: because we care so much), and want so badly to trust the advice of 'experts'. It would be great to find 'experts' we could trust. When you do...let me know.

Sounds more like whooping cough.

[Crank Parent]

Oh and there's this:

http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/to...ter.5970884.jp

Day 14 is the classic peak for vaccine reactions. The GP should never have allowed this child to have the SF vaccine after a serious reaction to a previous vaccine as it's a contraindication in all vaccine information leaflets. Grrr!