Go Back   Home Education Forums > Home Education Forums > The Old Chestnuts

The Old Chestnuts For discussion of the most frequently asked questions about home education.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 17-12-09, 18:43
Ali Admin's Avatar
Ali Admin Ali Admin is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Angus
Posts: 5,573
Thanks: 5,000
Thanked 10,148 Times in 3,496 Posts
Default Of puddings and chocolate (and kids learning things too)

Found on facebook and too good not to share.

This is a brilliant comment by "Navier" on an article from the Independent online. It's actually a response to someone else's comment criticising home ed from a schools-based understanding of education.

The original article, comments and context can be found here.

Quote:
We don't need a massive science lab with fume cupboards and gas on tap. We splashed out and spent $200 on a Thames and Kosmos chemistry set. As a side rant, it's just about the only 'proper' chemistry set around these days and had to be shipped in from the States as it involves incredibly dangerous things like naked flames and stuff that might give you a rash if you rubbed it into your skin really hard for an hour. But that's it for chemistry resources right through to GCSE. We don't need anything else and we use most of the glassware etc that came in that for biology and physics as well.

But you don't even need that. First example. We took the turntable out of the microwave in the kitchen and zapped a bar of Cadbury's for 30 seconds. Measure the distance between the hot spots and you can calculate the speed of light while you get your daily chocolate fix. Seriously. How cool is that? Using chocolate to work out the speed of light.

You don't need an expensive gyroscope to study conservation of angular momentum either. Go for a bike ride on some old railway line through the woods. Stop somewhere nice for a pub lunch. Drop the front wheel out of your bike. Get it spinning and then try to turn it sideways. Job done. As well as PE, geography, poetry writing, ecology, photography, art, industrial archaeology, history and whatever else you did on the way to the pub.

We thought we'd need loads of resources and loads of knowledge til we actually started doing it ourselves. It pretty quickly dawns on you that the methods suited to a school are not necessarily applicable to one on one education. It turns out that pretty much all you really need is Google and a sense of adventure. Schools do it one way. Home educators do it another.

Of course very few parents have the same knowledge and skills as a school full of GCSE teachers. But HE is about more than teaching. For us, and for many other HE families, it's not so much about teaching the subject, it's about learning the subject. We do often do conventional teaching of a subject we know but frequently it means simply facilitating research or investigation by the child and sometimes it means a joint effort between parent and child to discover the knowledge first hand.

Fundamentally though it means being able to say "I dunno. Let's Google it and find out." Teachers can't do that. It's not efficient with a class of 25 kids and no doubt they would be shredded by parents for not having the requisite subject knowledge immediately to hand. And yet that journey of discovery, all the backwater tangents you end up exploring and the skill of learning how to learn and learning how to enjoy learning is the most fulfilling part of an education. It's what sets a person up for a lifetime of learning rather than a race to a finish line at 16 or 18 or 21 or whenever. I think the school system, both state and private, is in danger of losing that.

So, while I'm certainly not saying that HE is a perfect solution for anyone, let alone everyone, some of the things that are often cited as problems turn out not to be or are in fact benefits when viewed in the context of a family that has taken on the not inconsiderable challenge of home educating their children. It's all about adapting to a radically different way of learning and until you actually start doing it and letting the implications of those differences soak into the way you approach it, it's very difficult to see how it works in practice or even how it could possibly work in theory. At the end of the day the proof of the pudding is in the eating and every time we ask our daughter if she wants to go back to school the answer is always "Shyeah, riiiight". She also bakes exceedingly good puddings now as well.
__________________
Home Education Forums
bringing learning to life
Home Education Business Directory
for home educators who mean business
Bookmark and Share
Reply With Quote
The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to Ali Admin For This Useful Post:
andreahenderson2 (17-12-09), Diane (18-12-09), Earthtracer (04-01-10), Elaine Kirk (03-01-10), Polly (17-12-09), s836apg (18-12-09), Sheila Struthers (17-12-09), suze (17-12-09), Tricia (17-12-09)
  #2  
Old 17-12-09, 20:14
Debs Debs is offline
HE
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 98
Thanks: 284
Thanked 158 Times in 56 Posts
Default

Brilliant. Just slightly wary of the heavy reliance on Google as an answer to our detractors, knowing how this Government is moving towards seeing internet access as some kind of basic human right, especially for home educated children, and how they are likely to view families who choose not to use computers as somehow neglecting their children. This comment, although very good reading, does tend to lend weight to the strange idea that you need internet access to be able to home educate.
Bookmark and Share
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Debs For This Useful Post:
Diane (18-12-09), Polly (17-12-09), Sheila Struthers (17-12-09)
  #3  
Old 17-12-09, 20:46
Helen_A Helen_A is offline
HE
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 192
Thanks: 82
Thanked 341 Times in 129 Posts
Default

I think that its worse than that though - they are viewing families who don't use Microsoft products on a Microsoft windows running computer as somehow neglecting their children...*

They also don't seem to realise that its really quite 'easy' to make a windows machine work as if you are there so you can continue to 'do' your daily 'work' and register should you need to. So ultimately we get the last laugh either way...


*I keep having conversations with software companies who are convinced that there is no call for Mac versions of their software for education. And then there are the increasing numbers o schools who are going over to macs only to find that they then have to use them to run windows on because the govt. supported software *isn't allowed* to be made in mac versions

Last edited by Helen_A; 17-12-09 at 20:53.
Bookmark and Share
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Helen_A For This Useful Post:
Debs (18-12-09), Diane (18-12-09), Elaine Kirk (22-12-09), Sheila Struthers (17-12-09)
  #4  
Old 03-01-10, 22:44
Qualitee Qualitee is offline
HE
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Crynant, Neath
Posts: 24
Thanks: 1
Thanked 33 Times in 17 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Debs View Post
Brilliant. Just slightly wary of the heavy reliance on Google as an answer to our detractors, knowing how this Government is moving towards seeing internet access as some kind of basic human right, especially for home educated children, and how they are likely to view families who choose not to use computers as somehow neglecting their children. This comment, although very good reading, does tend to lend weight to the strange idea that you need internet access to be able to home educate.
It's ok, you do not have to rely on Google anymore!

Ninetendo DS...Kids Braintrainer and Wii...Horrible Histories

All thanks to Santa!

Happy New Year.

Pauline
Bookmark and Share
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Qualitee For This Useful Post:
Elaine Kirk (03-01-10), Polly (04-01-10)
  #5  
Old 04-01-10, 14:08
Polly Polly is offline
HE
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 780
Thanks: 5,668
Thanked 2,041 Times in 689 Posts
Default

Can I add as well? - Whitaker's Almanack Little Book of Infinity

Also from Santa, but those who Santa forgot can find it in The Works discount bookshop or

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Whitakers-Al...ref=pd_sim_b_1

Also Microsoft machines will also run Kubuntu or Ubuntu. I'm working on a Gateway Laptop that was installed with Vista - but it was unstable (thought the hard drive was dying ) so I did a clean install of Kubuntu 9.10 (karmic Koala - love the name) and it's brilliant! Any programme I want is available FREE! and the support is second to none all my personal stuff was saved to disc but Kubuntu imported it seamlessly

It's a part of my "anti control by others" drive, Mr Gates no longer controls my computer and there is no longer a backdoor by which anything can be downloaded

Last edited by Polly; 04-01-10 at 14:12. Reason: posted to soon
Bookmark and Share
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
home education , resources , science experiments

Thread Tools





SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2